Wednesday, August 15, 2007

It's just around the corner

Considering the anniversary of the event that Rudy Giuliani is basing his entire campaign on is right around the corner, I thought I'd take some time and post a link to 'Loose Change.' If you haven't seen this, it's pretty compelling. While you do have to take some of it with a grain of salt, they have some very good arguments.

I should warn you that anyone who watches this is pretty much deemed a conspiracy nut, and you'll recieve a phone call from Hannity & Colmes after it ends telling you 'seven days.' You'll be fine. I will also say that this film is given instant credibility because Fox News will lash out vehemently at anyone who sites it or any of the theories contained within. That should tell you how close to the truth this film actually gets. (on a side note, Fox News wouldn't know 'fair and balanced' if it was tattooed on Bill O'Riley's forehead.) At the end of the film, they have plenty of links you can go to to do your own research and decide for yourself.

My favorite argument is about the Osama video. I'm not going to spoil it, but after watching this, you really...really...have to question what the hell we're doing over seas.

So kick back, grab some pop corn, and...one way or another...prepare to be outraged.

7 comments:

Denier said...

Like the JFK assassination, I was skeptical, UNTIL I actually cracked open a book and saw all the discrepancies in the official story, fabrications, witness tampering and intimidation, and all the other stuff that blew holes in the lone gunman theory. Same with 9/11. Despite my natural conspiratorial inclinations, years and years went by before I began to focus on the flimsy coverup that was the 9/11 Commission, with its conflicts of interest and outright forgeries. Amazingly, nowhere in the official report is it even mentioned how almost the entire military was engaged in training exercise that morning that left them criminally unable to respond to an actual attack. Throw in the circumstances surrounding WTC 7, the apparent shootdown of United 93, as you say the phony Osama video, the breaches of standard protocol that prevented a military response, the ties between high government officials and Saudi Arabia, repeated intelligence warnings ignored, the fact that the hijackers used stolen passports and identities and so we don't really know who was on those planes to this day, etc. The case against the official story is more compelling and believable than 19 Middle Easterners using boxcutters and plastic knives being able to hatch such an intricate plot, which defies logic and credulity. Throw in things like the rampant insider stock trading in airline and insurance stocks and the Pakistani intelligence role, and the entire story unravels. The myth about the boxcutters is just a convenient fiction created by the airline industry to preclude a wave of lawsuits for negligence. It's much more likely that the hijackers used chemicals and even guns or knives to subdue the passengers and take control, thus requiring gas masks, etc., to be smuggled on board. I also read somewhere that on one of the flights there was already a hijacker on the cockpit on takeoff, which is why they won't release the full cabin recordings for some of the flights, like United 93. Throw in the fact that at least four of the suspected hijackers were able to train on U.S. military bases in addition to the flight schools we all knew about, and you can see we are through the looking glass here. But as you said, most people don't wanna hear about conspiracies; that's exactly what the conspirators are counting on: the knee-jerk aversion to anything but what they are told is what happened by the mainstream media. But a lot of intelligent people are not swallowing their bullshit and instead are pursuing the truth of what happened. Hopefully sooner rather than later Bush and especially Cheney's role in the whole sordid story will emerge...

Magnus Maximus said...

Same here! I was quite skeptical at first. It's so easy to accept the first narrative you're presented with. This goes for anything that is of consequence in world affairs, whether it's Iran, Iraq, 9-11, whatever. I constantly have to rearrange my interpretation of things to as I read and learn more.

Warden, have you read Christopher Sharrett's short essay on the Kennedy assassination? While it probably contains no information you're not already privy to, it is the best and most concise argument for a domestic conspiracy I've come across. Check it out here.

Let me know what you think...

Serge A. Storms said...

I think you two are my reader demographic...

Denier said...

Max: I'm gonna print out that
Sharrett piece at work tomorrow and check it out. Looks interesting. You know, the best thing I ever read on the JFK murder was actually a work of fiction: Libra, by Don DeLillo. It creates a real plausible scenario. Do you know that one? DeLillo just did a 9/11 novel, Falling Man, that I haven't read yet. But it's not really about the conspiracy from what I haerd.

Serge: Yeah, it's a small demographic, tho! Nothing wrong with preaching to the choir; it's good to know there are like minded people out there. If you're not outraged on a daily basis by the damage Bush & Co have done to this country, then you're just not paying attention and have your head up you know where. Unfortunately, that includes millions of Americans. The few Bush supporters left are like cult members now: they're never gonna admit they were wrong about anything, people like Bill Kristol. Of course, if you're a defense contractor, war profiteer, media mogul, multinational corporation, mine owner, oil driller, lumber company, etc., then it's been a wonderful 7 years...

Magnus Maximus said...

yeah, Libra Is just great. Spooky in its realism and plausibility, and a great character study of Delillo's fictionalized (but again very plausible) Oswald. The end, when you actually get to Delillo's description of the assassination, is absolutely chilling. It's a somewhat difficult book, too. It's funny how Delillo can do the accessible books like White Noise just as skillfully as he does the dense, cerebral ones like Libra and the Names. He's easily my favorite novelist, one of those guys you can call a genius without being afraid of overstatement.

I haven't read Falling Man yet, but it's on my list. From what I've heard, it's more about 9-11's psychological impact than about the true events causing it.

Definitely let me know your thoughts on the Sharrett piece!

Denier said...

Funny, I didn't see Libra as difficult. I think it's one of his more straightforward books, as long as you have a decent background on the JFK assassination itself. White Noise is terrific, the book that got me into DeLillo in the first place. I struggled thru a few of his earlier ones like Great Jones Street and Players and never finished them; but EndZone, Americana and Mao II especially are the ones that really made me a DeLillo fan. I don't read nearly as much fiction as I used to. I gravitate toward history, biographies and politics now almost exclusively. Would make an exception with writers like DeLillo, tho. I think Underground was his last masterpiece, while Cosmopolis got torn apart by critics, maybe rightly so, but I didn't read it so I can't say.

Magnus Maximus said...

It's been a while since I read it, but I remember having to read it carefully to absorb everything. Hrm.


Endzone and Americana are two of my favorites. Especially end zone; one of the funniest books I've read. All the philosophical conversations the football players have kill me. Cosmopolis I liked. Not his best, but still better than most the dreck lining the shelves.

I gotta check out great Jones Street!